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Statewide Gas Ban Bill Axed From NY Budget, Sources Say

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  • nyc homeowner
    Posted April 8, 2022 at 10:20 am

    NYS, and NYC homeowners better wake up soon to what’s really going on in this debate over gas hookup. Gas is the cleanest source for heating and cooking. Electric heating is massively expensive despite the fantasy of cheap hydro-power from Quebec. Heat pumps are not practical in areas with high water tables like most of SI, and large parts of Queens and Brooklyn. Electric stoves are garbage, ask any cook.

    Once homeowners are forced to use electricity NYS will find a way to take over the utilities in the state. Not only that, but how is not a restraint of trade to force homeowners to use only one non-competitive energy source in their private homes? NYS wants to slowly gain control over our homes. And don’t buy the ‘it will only apply to new construction’ line of nonsense. That will only be the first step before their ultimate goal of imposing crushing costs on all private homeowners is accomplished, lowering the value of every home in NYS, including NYC.

    • Guest
      Posted April 15, 2022 at 5:34 am

      Electricity is cleaner than gas for heating and cooking. Water table doesn’t have an impact on heat pumps. You’re talking geothermal setups, a particular type and high water tables just require a different type of installation. Electric induction stoves are considered the best.

      Electricity is expensive now but natural gas prices are less stable. There is going to be a point when electric power generation becomes cheaper. Sooner than you think.

      • KD
        Posted April 15, 2022 at 6:16 pm

        Heat pumps don’t work in cold climates

        • Guest
          Posted April 20, 2022 at 11:23 am

          What? Of course they work in cold climates. People already use heat pumps in some NYC buildings for heating.

          • Matt Brown
            Posted December 20, 2022 at 7:04 pm

            Heat Pumps lose their efficiency after temperatures reach 40 degrees, at which point they use more energy than it takes for them to produce electricity.

            On top of that, if the power goes out for more than 30 minutes, you’re out of luck and have to replace the entire unit.

            Do some research instead of expecting everyone to jump on board your ship.

  • R Montgomery
    Posted April 8, 2022 at 11:05 am

    This bill will hurt more than help its not in the peoples interest why does the Government keep punishing people just trying to make a better life Gas is clean
    Tell the people how they make most of the electricity then we can have a real conversation Thanks ps ever try cooking a Turkey in an electric oven

    • Guest
      Posted April 15, 2022 at 5:40 am

      Gas is not clean. Natural gas, though cleaner than say oil still pollutes.

      Modern convection ovens are excellent.

      • Matt Brown
        Posted December 20, 2022 at 7:08 pm

        You’ll figure it out when you buy an ear of corn for $8 and a gallon of milk for $20.

        Then you will blame the farmers and want to ban cows, which is already in the works.

        When the power goes out for a few days, in -20f temps, like it did for us last year, you better have a plan and one that doesn’t include people who are already footing the bill in this over taxed state for nonsense to further foot your rescue.

  • Kirk Miller
    Posted April 10, 2022 at 12:42 pm

    I see no problem with requiring new home construction not being powered by natural gas, propane or any other fossil fuel. The question is: Buffalo in the past 15-20 years has experienced multi-day electrical outages. Two of these occurred during winter. Natural gas delivery was not affected. What provisions will be in place to provide heat to these buildings so that the death toll from hypothermia is kept to acceptable levels? Infrastructure damage will also occur from freezing pipes.

    • Guest
      Posted April 15, 2022 at 5:37 am

      The problem with depending on fossil fuels is pollution and instability. Just because natural gas was consistent during that event does not mean it always will be.

      • Matt Brown
        Posted December 20, 2022 at 7:09 pm

        Odd, my Propane never runs out… When I need more, they deliver…

    • Laurie
      Posted January 26, 2023 at 6:53 pm

      Kirk, that’s exactly my question!! Once we are total electric, when the power goes out, and it will, how will we not freeze to death in the winter? Nobody seems to be addressing this very important question.

  • KD
    Posted April 15, 2022 at 6:15 pm

    Really hard to believe that the writer says it has gained a lot of support with 600 people. People are clueless on this as the government wants everyone to be until it is too late. I hope all you people that agree are driving EV, have solar panels on your roofs. The grid cannot support all the electrical demands. Cart before the horse is what the government is trying to do.

  • Susan
    Posted April 22, 2022 at 7:21 pm

    First the guns now the gas.

    • Matt Brown
      Posted December 20, 2022 at 7:10 pm

      No.. Electricity.

      Now they have FULL control. Right?

  • Richard Z.
    Posted April 30, 2022 at 3:06 pm

    How many total kilowatt hours are going to be needed to power electric everything? – –
    – There wont be enough kwH generated from wind , water and solar without natural gas burning electric plants. Especially after you ban the gas powered cars.
    – Building wind and solar power generators is not a carbon neutral process in some cases you’ be better just burning natural gas.
    – NY state can’t be heated by an unreliable power source such as the electrical grid. You will kill people in the winter doing that and wont have enough shelters with gas burning generators for shelters.

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