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Opinion: Transit Riders Won Congestion Pricing. We Deserve To See It Happen

9 Comments

  • staten islander
    Posted August 24, 2022 at 3:58 pm

    Congestion Pricing is really designed to punish outer-borough middle-class drivers who no choice but to drive into Manhattan for work, medical visits, family visits. The subways do not reach into every neighborhood and in places like Staten Island and eastern Queens a car is a necessity.

    89% of the cars registered in NYC are registered in the outer-boroughs: https://u.pc.cd/p6k

    • Guest
      Posted August 25, 2022 at 1:00 pm

      You can still drive into Manhattan, you’ll just have to pay a toll. The point is to reduce the number of automobile trips into the Manhattan Central Business District. A toll discourages people from doing so. The money collected for public transportation is a bonus. If you regularly travel into Manhattan, use public transportation for most trips like most outer borough middle class residents already do.

      SI and Eastern Queens have public transportation options into the CBD too. Commuters from those areas already mostly use public transportation to reach the area.

  • ml
    Posted August 25, 2022 at 2:06 pm

    Lifelong Manhattan resident – walk, bus, subway.
    But completely against CP for so many reasons.

    BTW it is a myth that the folks driving in to Manhattan are “rich” as suggested by this opinion “well-heeled percentage of Manhattan-bound commuters who drive”.
    There was a “well-heeled” segment a bunch of years ago.
    But now rich suburbanites are working remotely from home/second home etc – they are not driving in.

    No one drives to Manhattan for fun.

    Where is the discussion of the huge increase in ecommerce vehicles?
    And Ubers, especially pre-Covid?

    As for physical “congestion” that is now in part a result of continually decreasing street space (bike lanes, closed streets) rather than number of vehicles.

    In a place like Atlanta, congestion is a function of volume. In Manhattan, congestion is fundamentally related to 1) continued overdevelopment (luxury); 2) street shrinkage like bike lanes; and 3) street obstruction like construction and delivery.

    There is also no discussion of the loss in subway ridership – 1) again people working remotely ; 2) people not coming to NYC in general 3) and people (especially young affluent) who have switched from subway to bike/Citibike, upright scooter and moped/Revel.

  • James
    Posted August 25, 2022 at 8:15 pm

    Congestion Pricing is a money grab by the MTA, One of the most inefficient and wasteful transportation groups on earth, Yes on earth. The title of a 2017 NY Times article best describes the MTA’s waste of taxpayer money: The Most Expensive Mile of Subway Track on Earth, by Brian Rosenthal.
    The MTA needs to be audited annually by an outside agency which can mandate efficiency and the elimination of MTA waste.
    The savings that result combined with the 15 billion given to NY state by the federal government will provide enough money for the MTA to repair its infrastructure.
    Regarding pollution, A recent study (Feb 2021) by NYU Langone revealed MTA subway stations are more polluted than the air above. ground, Quote ”
    Concentrations of Hazardous Metals & Organic Particles That Ranged Anywhere from Two to Seven Times That of Outdoor Air Samples.”

    Does anyone at the MTA care that they are pushing more citizens into a dangerously polluted subway. Of course not, Because like I said, Its a money grab.

    • Guest
      Posted August 26, 2022 at 1:15 pm

      The primary purpose of congestion pricing is to reduce the amount of people driving into the Manhattan central business district. The money is for public transportation is a bonus. The MTA does need to fix its issues but congestion pricing is necessary regardless.

      The alternative is worsening traffic and related externalities. It can absolutely get worse.

      • nyc101
        Posted August 28, 2022 at 12:21 pm

        It will reduce the number of people with disposable income driving into Manhattan from everywhere to patronize restaurants/cafes, theaters, higher-end stores and shops. If you think that more well-off suburbanites/city residents are going to take commuter rail or the dangerous unsafe subway to come into the city for a play which lets out after 9pm you are deluding yourself.

  • Andrew Ostrover
    Posted August 28, 2022 at 2:51 pm

    Why don’t they also give residents of Manhattan parking permits. Like many other cities in the world. Then even fewer people will drive to Manhattan because in many areas they would need a resident parking permit or need to park in a garage.

  • Erique
    Posted September 27, 2022 at 10:54 am

    Drivers are already feeling tremendously squeezed when going to Manhattan. Parking is 20 – 40 $ . Tolls are 10 and up. parking tickets and tow fees if you misunderstand a sign. People already avoid the city unless they absolutely have to. Sure.. add another fee.

  • Adam S
    Posted November 20, 2022 at 11:48 pm

    I’m a resident of Rockland County and I work in the film business. I moved out because I could not afford rent in Brooklyn or Queens. My work requires me to report to work in the city at 4 or 5 am on mondays, and I often work 9through Friday night into Saturday mornings at 4 or 5 am. A the hours and the fact that I often need to report all over the city requires me to use a personal vehicle. This will generate an outsized hardship for workers like me.

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