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Bronx Rental Complex Must Accept Housing Vouchers, Judge Rules 

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  • Donna
    Posted August 1, 2022 at 10:40 pm

    Comment Correction
    The Voucher Program gives people the privilege to have standardized housing. However, it is certainly a challenge finding decent housing with the a Voucher.

    I spent from last year into last month searching 8 hours a day. It is like a full time job. This search during a major Pandemic.

    People have a deadline as to how much time they are allotted to find decent housing.
    Income Discrimination is isolating, and supports homeless. Housing restricted people are discouraged from being full contributors in society due to income discrimination. Must standby and see other people with housing find success.

    This decision opens up doors for people, who were denied housing due to their incomes. Homeless ruins your income potential. Small cramped rooms can do the same thing as well. Having Space needed to get up and go to work will allow folks to move from poverty to employment.
    Denying people that opportunity is like telling them they don’t exist. This is not right, or fair.

    The decision means that buildings using government grants are obligated to accept people with Vouchers. This is very important due to the homeless crisis here in the City of New York, as well as the essential need for standardized housing.

    • Luz Sanchez
      Posted August 3, 2022 at 6:52 am

      God Bless this Judge and this lady for taking it to court. I’m a mother of 5 beautiful children who are now grown Thank god I worked and have section 8 voucher I was turned down so many times bcoz of my section 8 voucher it was hard having five children and raising them alone. I still have my section 8 voucher and I took in my daughter Inlaw and my two grandkids since her and my son separated and I’m looking for an apt and some landlords don’t want to rent bcoz I have a section 8 voucher and I’m not working I’m disabled but my daughter Inlaw works. I hope this will help other landlords to accept us and not look at us as low life bcoz we aren’t we are good family that just need help.

      Thank you
      Luz

  • Ghamal Sabir
    Posted August 1, 2022 at 11:27 pm

    This is great news for those of us with the City Pheps vouchers, yet I’m one of those people who have been discriminated against due to having a voucher, and it’s not fair for being homeless well over ten years,and in a single shelter for more than 5 years myself in Brooklyn New York !

  • Samo
    Posted August 1, 2022 at 11:55 pm

    If the city really wanted to house the voucher holders (they dont, its too costly) they would pressure albany to pass a law allowing landlords to charge more than the legal rent if they rent to voucher holders.
    20k apartments would be available to voucher holders tomorrow morning.

    • johnWilson
      Posted August 3, 2022 at 6:46 pm

      Your assertion about legislation in albany allowing landlords to charge more would create 20k units available is based on what, i ask cause im willing to help lobby to secure passage.

    • Jay
      Posted August 23, 2022 at 9:38 pm

      Is this is a joke? Your argument flies in the face logic. Your asking to legalize a untenable “catch-22” situation (Think about why before replying)

  • Ana Ana Santiago
    Posted August 2, 2022 at 12:21 am

    Yo tengo plan 8 federal y me gustaría un partamento des dos cuartos tengo una niña un año me podrías ayudar mi nombre es Ana Santiago

  • Lynette Williams
    Posted August 2, 2022 at 1:47 am

    God bless you all that are assisting the families I hope that someone could help me and others in Savannah ga.to get housing with the vouchers that we have. Please help call or text with advice on what I can do. Thanks have a blessed evening.

  • Lewis Fuller
    Posted August 2, 2022 at 6:05 am

    So is this why I haven’t heard back from them they told me I had to go on line to apply for an appointment and I have NY CITY FHEPS as well I mind as well make a law suit against them

    • Phil
      Posted August 4, 2022 at 7:14 am

      Yea word think doing same thing

  • Carlene Primus
    Posted August 2, 2022 at 7:15 am

    Amazing read, congrats to the family.

  • Goaldigger1
    Posted August 2, 2022 at 8:03 am

    It is about time. These Management companies have been getting away with murder for too long. Equal Opportunity for ALL regardless of ones’ financial situation because it ISN’T a one size fits all. Bravo to the young lady who DIDN’T take NO for an answer.

  • Jack Hudgins
    Posted August 2, 2022 at 8:10 am

    Great move by the housing advocates

  • matt
    Posted August 2, 2022 at 8:18 am

    Within one year, the cops won’t even be able to patrol that mess.

    • Barbara Razza
      Posted August 3, 2022 at 3:44 am

      I agree. Another reason to run

  • matt
    Posted August 2, 2022 at 8:21 am

    Homeless people living for free with rent paying workers. How many children in the building I wonder.

    • Mark
      Posted August 2, 2022 at 1:47 pm

      Wtf those that have anything to the case at hand. No one is living for free as the state is covering the complete cost. Nothing but racist discriminatory practices

    • Ge l
      Posted August 2, 2022 at 3:42 pm

      You ever been in their shoes, why not switch with them.

    • Jay
      Posted August 23, 2022 at 9:40 pm

      Please, no more disgusting, disparaging, discriminating comments from you.

  • nyc101
    Posted August 2, 2022 at 9:03 am

    How is it legal to force a private landlord to take part in a voluntary program like Section-8/NYC vouchers? Sooner or later up the appeal chain the courts will toss this law out.

    • Ge l
      Posted August 2, 2022 at 3:43 pm

      Change place with poor.

      • Y
        Posted August 2, 2022 at 8:09 pm

        What a brilliant answer smh

    • Sarah
      Posted August 3, 2022 at 7:14 am

      It’s illegal to discriminate.

    • Marc
      Posted August 3, 2022 at 10:32 pm

      Well if a person can pay for the rent (legal) means then why not accept it? The apt is being paid for and it’s a government funded aspect…so you will know that the funds are there…versus having to troll to get your payment. Yea

  • Griselle
    Posted August 2, 2022 at 9:15 am

    This article is good and got to the core of the illegal housing pracrice that happened and that happens often, rather than down playing the issue. The judge and attorneys did a beautiful job at assuring that the women with the voucher got justice. This needs to happen more often because it feels like NY has gotten relaxed about addressing illegal housing/realty practices. Because of the illegal practices many people needing housing are rejected or even scammed.

    • Sarah
      Posted August 3, 2022 at 7:17 am

      Yes, I also think it was really important to highlight the fact that Parkchester was a “whites only” community. Many of the housing practices of today are tied to discriminatory legacies of the past.

  • Bernadette
    Posted August 2, 2022 at 10:16 am

    I appreciated this article very much. Far too long these discriminatory practices are done so boldly and those who are unfamiliar with the practice never complain or take the appropriate action. Often times 80’s ‘, 90’s and early 2000 stigma’s attached to those individuals and families who are only able to pay their rent with a voucher, are treated as low class citizens and are only allowed to rent in the most deplorable areas. Far Rockaway is one of those areas for example, another is South Jamaica, Queens and there are many other areas where folks with vouchers are lumped into a specific designated neighborhood and slum landlords welcome this type of income. They do the least amount of work to their apartments just to remain in good standing with the voucher requirements Meanwhile in the other neck of the woods the management companies such as the one featured in this article use brokers that ask questions like what’s your credit score even though you explain to them that you have a full executed voucher. This is another tactic to discriminate against those holding a fully executed voucher for rental. I had a broker said to me that my client needi to make at $100,000 combined income to get into a building in the Fresh Meadows Queens area. This is absolutely unfair and more lawsuits should be happening all over the NYC.
    Thank you for this article. I will be making several copies to give to many brokers and management companies.

  • Jasmine Medina
    Posted August 2, 2022 at 10:34 am

    I have a voucher and one place told me I have to make 90k to be qualified for their apartments. I been denied left and right, ALL OVER NY! I have to look outside of New York because besides the income discrimination my voucher isn’t even covering the full thing and that’s the next thing I’m getting discriminated on. It’s so sad, I’m lost for words and now I’m just so emotional about it. NY claims to have all these programs but they barely help anybody!

  • Star
    Posted August 2, 2022 at 10:39 am

    I Need one of those Apts! Seriously!

  • Kim D Walker
    Posted August 2, 2022 at 11:29 am

    I would love to live there it is a nice environment

  • T low
    Posted August 2, 2022 at 12:53 pm

    This is good and bad. I have experienced homelessness and cityfehps is NOT section 8. It has a timeframe, you don’t qualify for life because of poverty. Another reason landlords don’t want this voucher. What happens when the city stops paying the rent? Some people will have the means, especially with the low rents of NYCHA, Parkchester and Co-op city, Others will not and the eviction process will be long and costly. Plus with planned communities they’re worried about renting to bad tenants and unfortunately homeless people have this stigma. Change is never smooth and this will not be smooth.

    • Mira
      Posted August 3, 2022 at 9:19 am

      This is THE best comment on here. Its a temporary solution to a permanent problem. Those vouchers are NOT forever. How do you fight to live in a place you can not afford after 5 years? People are not seeing the end result which is homelessness again, and again!

  • BRIDGET MCDONALD
    Posted August 2, 2022 at 1:15 pm

    I’m almost in the same position but me and my kids in one room I’m also living with someone I found a place fill out the paperwork seen the apartment and everything June now it’s August I’m still waiting from compliance I guess to say ok then got to wait for housing specials to check it out before we can move in and don’t know how long that’s going to take some people been waiting 3 months and some 6 which don’t make sense how long do they think we can stay in people house I alo have cityfeps.

  • Edma Reyes
    Posted August 2, 2022 at 2:39 pm

    I want to apply for a 1 bdrm apartment my yearly salary is 49, 6300…

  • Kristie Cruz
    Posted August 2, 2022 at 3:52 pm

    This is so sad. My husband and I got accepted for section 8 way bk in 2007 then they claimed they ran out of funds. So my husband and I had to leave nycn move to Ohio with my family. Praying for those that need housing help!!

    • Luz Sanchez
      Posted August 3, 2022 at 6:58 am

      Thank you

  • Jan Jam
    Posted August 2, 2022 at 4:11 pm

    This is bad, The majority of section 8 tenants don’t care or appreciate a clean environment. Don’t work for the money so, they have a sense of entitlement, for the rest of us that work hard and need a good night sleep, that will be impossible now. They sleep in the day and up all night and they children run back and forth all day and night. Look at the changes right now, just imagine what it will be in a year from now. All the good tenants will move out and this place will be what? This Judge should accept them in his neighborhood. All the bull crap loud mouth politicians should take a crack of accepting a few into their neighborhood…. I am no just talking crap, I had the experience for years.. i might as well quit ,my job and get welfare, bets working!!

    • Toi
      Posted August 2, 2022 at 6:11 pm

      Every person that receives section 8 are not just sitting at home sleeping all day letting their children run wild. Some have jobs and pay a portion of the rent. They just can’t afford market rent. Some of these people actually appreciate the help that they receive. Some of them actually do raise their children. It’s the bad ones that receive the vouchers that mess up the properties, let their children run wild, party all night, don’t wanna work and just sit on they asses all day that make it bad for the people who actually need and appreciate the voucher.

      • Sonia Rodriguez
        Posted August 4, 2022 at 12:15 pm

        You are correct.i also had section 8 a long time ago an I also worked n section 8 helped pay for the rent.it helped me raise my two sons well in a clean manage housing.the majority of people living
        there worked.but if u get people that don’t work that is when the complex gets bad.

    • Lisa
      Posted August 3, 2022 at 2:28 am

      Stfu your racism is showing

      • Rachel
        Posted August 4, 2022 at 6:05 pm

        How is that racist?? original commenter didn’t mention race at all?? Sounds like you’re assuming that these “bad tenants” must be of a minority race… now THAT is racist!!!!!!

    • Sandy
      Posted August 3, 2022 at 7:24 am

      Exactly, that’s where the issue is, alot of them people in shelter didn’t have to end up the way they are if only they got their lives together, get some type of education, go to work and pay taxes like the rest of us. Alot of the good, hard working residents in parkchester where majority people are professionals such as teachers, nurses, social workers & etc live there cause it’s a safe, quiet environment and building are maintained very good by maintenance which again we pay for out of our hard working monies. well, that’s about to change because those good ones that have good salaries and pay very well for the good services (like me) will start leaving cause very soon it’s gonna turn into the projects at parkchester! Sorry, but not sorry, but a majority of the families that do have these housing vouchers have bad vibes , don’t work, don’t go to school , making babies left and right, sometimes using drugs, alcohol, and the whole nine yards. Now these citypheps housing voucher people will begin to diminish the quality of life in parkchester cause once they move in it’s gonna be a wrap! And Not to mention who Those people (on those housing voucher) going be inviting into the apts or buildings, omg, just the thought of it making me sick! Well, time for me to start looking into other states, I might as well go search for house now…

      • Traza DeSousa
        Posted August 8, 2022 at 11:51 am

        SOOO SAD, BUT TRUE. AND I’M AFRICAN AMERICAN, 56 YRS.OLD, PAYCHECK AWAY FROM BEING HOMELESS. I have 2 brothers that reside there. It’s Beautiful, well kept and quiet. I believe a great change (for the worst) is going to happen in Parkchester. It won’t be as it is today.😢

        • Traza DeSousa
          Posted August 8, 2022 at 12:02 pm

          It’s just that some, NOT ALL PERSONS with vouchers are Careless Beings, that behaviors would automatically impact the current status of the community and eventually become an eye soar and a Haven for crime. We don’t know how the group sent here from Texas gonna contribute to Monkey Pox, Mental Health and Crime.

        • Traza DeSousa
          Posted August 8, 2022 at 12:52 pm

          It’s just that some, NOT ALL PERSONS with vouchers are Careless Beings, that behaviors would automatically impact the current status of the community and eventually become an eye soar and a Haven for crime. We don’t know how the group sent here from Texas gonna contribute to
          Monkey Pox, Mental Health and Crime.

          • oz
            Posted August 12, 2022 at 11:35 am

            Traza the neighborhood since they accepted nonworking families and vouchers, has changed, and not for the best, it appeals that new tenants love to destroy other people’s property, Parkchester has become dirty, some people play loud music 2 /3 am and don’t respect others privacy, now a judge decides that we have to take more vouchers. I bet he does not live in the neighborhood.

    • M
      Posted August 3, 2022 at 8:47 am

      I Honestly think… A landlord should have the right to decide if they want to accept Section 8! Those rights shouldn’t be taken from them.! If possible States should build more places to accommodate ppl with vouchers.

      • Jay
        Posted August 23, 2022 at 9:49 pm

        Section 8 is not the same as Cityfheps, so what does that have to do with this??

    • Dana
      Posted August 3, 2022 at 9:23 am

      EXACTLY!!! its not discrimination at all. The elevators will be filled with urine you will hear domestic violence and screaming kids all day and night. Trash everywhere. Pure nastiness. Shelter people do not work hard they just want to live in nice neighborhoods and buildings but have bad habits ruining it for hard working families.

      • South Bronx Kid
        Posted August 6, 2022 at 11:40 am

        Exactly. Loud radios from people who love to loiter. Chronically unemployed young men with their pants hanging down. Women yelling with kids from different fathers yelling and cursing. Investing more in tattoos than education or job training. Multiple generations under one roof with a grandmother a recovering addict. The world is tired of them and their excuses.

    • Christina
      Posted August 3, 2022 at 8:51 pm

      Section 8 is not the same as Cityfheps, so what does that have to do with this?

    • Marc
      Posted August 3, 2022 at 10:35 pm

      Sounds like a personal problem. If you’re having trouble with your neighbors you need to approach it by contacting your landlord or management company – it’s their job to provide a safe space for residents and if he/she doesn’t you can take it to legal aspects so stop complaining

    • Beauty Brown
      Posted August 4, 2022 at 11:43 am

      My point exactly. Bringing the property when I work hard to stay in my parkchester apartment. Maybe she should of tried an low income apartment. They accept programs left and right. Cause trust when I say she will have a target on her back when they do let her move in. Any little thing to get her outta there. FACTZ!

    • Jay
      Posted August 23, 2022 at 9:50 pm

      Huh?! Section 8 is not the same as Cityfheps, so what does that have to do with this?

  • Jes Sanz
    Posted August 2, 2022 at 5:53 pm

    I have section 8 and have been unhoused for 1 yr and a half.. most my family lives in parkchester I was denied at parkchester and surrounding areas for this reason. Pls send Help.

  • Linda Suzanne Emanuel
    Posted August 2, 2022 at 9:06 pm

    All of the people against others with vouchers have the nerve to complain about homeless families just thank the Good Lord it didn’t happen to you. Everyone who receives help paying their rent are not lazy they work their children are raised properly I grew up with kids whoboth parent worked or just the Father and they were hell raiser and no they were not people of color as always insinuated so stop the hate. It just may happen to you. Let he who is without sin CAST THE FIRST STONE

  • Jeffrey
    Posted August 2, 2022 at 10:28 pm

    Jeff am still. Waiting for home base to call me back for appointment to renew my city FEPS HomeBase be taking a time helping people to renew your city FEPS in Brooklyn

  • DONNA
    Posted August 2, 2022 at 10:30 pm

    I am gainfully employed and l have section 8 no children l got it because my building was part of the RAD program. I want to move my apartment is great but there are no elevators as l get older l need one…not all people on section 8 get welfare and ppl on welfare have to work to get a check and food stamps . Parchester is a nice neighborhood but the apartments are out dated. And parchester is a hot mess at times teenagers parents got money and jobs but they kids got no sense.

  • DARK WONDER
    Posted August 3, 2022 at 12:20 am

    I’m not homeless by choice, and I don’t think alot of homeless people are ether. We’ve hit a rough patch and need a little help. The stigma people place on all homeless is sad… Big Ups to Sis that fought “The Powers” that be !!!

  • Elisa owens
    Posted August 3, 2022 at 2:16 am

    One bedroom

  • Mariama barry
    Posted August 3, 2022 at 2:27 am

    This is so sad. I have a cityfephs voucher also and I have been living in a shelter for 4 years and still have not got a apartment and I have applied too many times for apartments and have not got picked to one and I got 3 kids and I need a apartment.

  • Carlette Goodwyn
    Posted August 3, 2022 at 6:25 am

    I grew up in Lafayette which is on Boynton and story I remember going to Catholic School in parkchester we couldn’t even sit on the bench without the cops harassing us while we waiting for the bus that complex used to always be nothing but Caucasian, as much rent as they want in there it is not worth it the apartments are extremely small and they are a lot of drug dealers that move and then now so I’m glad they’re going to start taking vouchers

  • Al
    Posted August 3, 2022 at 8:33 am

    I lived in Parkchester for ten years until relocating out of NY and it’s a great community. Just to note that Parkchester has fines for bad behavior. I personally used to report some of my neighbors for noise violations so good tenants don’t have to worry. But I wonder if the tenant can afford the rent when the voucher ends? If not the homeless cycle will continue.

  • Tanya
    Posted August 3, 2022 at 9:26 am

    I live in flushing Queens NY
    To qualify for my apartment I needed a 720 credit score and at least make 60K. Let me tell you it is the MOST pleasant neighborhood. No police sirens thugs blasting music fights. It is the best. Living with low income people does not afford that kind of peace. They are reckless and nasty. Forcing landlords to accept the vouchers is awful. I hope my landlord steers clear of this !!

  • Ana Mieses
    Posted August 3, 2022 at 1:04 pm

    Hola yo apliqué en 2009 para housing tengo 2 hijos especiales u necesitan espacio y nunca recibi respuestas positive solo que espere en una lists tengo 13 anos esperando.

  • Joan Sealey
    Posted August 3, 2022 at 2:43 pm

    I have been looking for two years. I do have a voucher from section 8. And had my voucher since 2003. I have been a good tenant. But my landlord lost the house due to the bank. Then I lost my apartment Every place you call no one wants to take my voucher. Just like the other tenants. It’s so sad that we have to punish like this. I’m still looking.

  • Joan Sealey Hoyte
    Posted August 3, 2022 at 2:46 pm

    I have been looking for two years. I do have a voucher from section 8. And had my voucher since 2003. I have been a good tenant. But my landlord lost the house due to the bank. Then I lost my apartment Every place you call no one wants to take my voucher. Just like the other tenants. It’s so sad that we have to punish like this. I’m still looking.

  • JC
    Posted August 3, 2022 at 2:56 pm

    I was born in Bronx River Houses just down the Cross Bronx Expressway(I remember it being built.
    It physically resembled Bronx River Hours except it had stores and was cleaner.
    It was also my first passive lession in “liberal” Racist Experience as it was all-white.
    Chickens come home to roost!

  • M
    Posted August 3, 2022 at 4:32 pm

    I have clients that have housing vouchers from DHS/HRA and are ready to move in but they do take forever to release the funds. Landlords wait patiently until they get someone that can pay right away. Then those shelter families have to start the process of finding another apartment or remain in the shelter.

  • Alexandra Ocasio
    Posted August 3, 2022 at 7:01 pm

    I have experience discrimination from getting an apartment which I already live in a building that excepts city fheps or section 8 and I asked to move into a two bedroom and I’ve been denied but yet people that come and live in an apartment for a couple of months have been able to get a two bedroom apartment yet I’ve been in this building for the last 10 years, yet my voucher covers the rent but there is always an excuse why I can’t get the apartment

  • Christina
    Posted August 3, 2022 at 8:52 pm

    I am not surprised. There are a lot of horror stories about Cityfheps and sometimes it’s because HRA doesn’t pay their portion of the rent on time. There is an entire blog dedicated to horror stories about it from landlords: https://www.nycfheps.com

  • Kon. Bu
    Posted August 3, 2022 at 9:01 pm

    Soon parkchester will be a housing project

    • Argentina Trinidad
      Posted August 21, 2022 at 9:52 pm

      It seems like it…:(

  • Lucian Coard
    Posted August 3, 2022 at 10:41 pm

    I have a voucher and applied. Heard nothing as of yet.

    • K.R.S
      Posted August 7, 2022 at 9:10 pm

      Good luck with your apartment search, Lucian and Happy Belated Birthday! Parkchester is a nice community.

  • Shay Jay
    Posted August 4, 2022 at 10:22 pm

    Kudos to the individuals representing families affected by this issue. I, too, agree that not everyone who receives a housing subsidy is uneducated, a nuisance nor incapable of being an ideal tenant. However, there are some families who are, thus making it hard for others to obtain decent housing.
    I’d like to add that I really want a housing advocate to look into how much money Parkchester Management has generated from apartment seekers who completed an online application AND paid the application fee only to be told during a follow-up call that your income isn’t high enough ($55k) for a 1 bedroom apartment!!! I’m certain everyone whom applied were denied and they made a killing off of the application fees!!!! 🤔🤔

  • Hortencia Jimenez
    Posted August 6, 2022 at 9:48 am

    The government can’t manage the NYCHA projects but they want to manage private property. Why are the NYCHA projects dangerous and run down? I know a couple on city FHEPS with 4 children. Both parents smoke pot all day and the hallway outside their door stinks like pot. They have no desire to work even inside their apt. They do not clean and put the garbage outside their door. That isn’t fair for working people. This is a Free country but that doesn’t mean rent is free while you reproduce like a rabbit.

  • Brown
    Posted August 6, 2022 at 3:12 pm

    The voucher program gives tenants privilege to have decent housing.
    Thanks to judge Latin for his act of caring.
    Peoples are human too.

  • ResidentX
    Posted August 20, 2022 at 8:44 pm

    I honestly do not agree with the government’s overreach on this area. A private landlord should not be forced to accept any government program because the city has a housing crisis. That is not a private landlords issue. It is the government’s problem.

    There are numerous issues with having to accept these programs. 1) the government is not a timely payer 2) if the tenant becomes a nuisance, the landlord has limited, expensive or extensively long avenues before the tenant is removed because social programs make it 10x harder to remove these tenants if 3) this measures creates other issues for the landlord such as other allegations of discrimination (ie a tenant who does not meet the income guidelines claims another party will cover a portion of the rent and the landlord is forced to accept the tenant because how is this any different than the government paying another tenant’s portion?) 4) if the tenant loses the social program you are stuck with tenant until you can get a court order to remove the tenant and a host of other issues. Unfortunately, many of the generalizations about voucher holders hold true more often than society would like to admit.

    Residents of the community want to continue to feel safe and secure in their neighborhood and the measures implemented and enforced the current community standards.

    Deviation from these guidelines will inevitably lead to the deterioration of the place they call home

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