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Opinion: To Avoid Rats, Odors and Inequity, NYC Must Redesign its Organic Waste System

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  • Staten Islander
    Posted July 27, 2020 at 11:20 am

    The DSNY Composting program proved unpopular which is why the program was dropped. The program never reached my neighborhood. If it ever does I won’t participate. I’m not going to store food waste in my freezer and I’m not going to keep an awful smelling composting receptacle on my property. The program failed because New Yorkers don’t want to stink up their apartments or homes. I also don’t want to chase an empty composting pail blowing all over my block after it’s collected by the DSNY.

    • Clare Miflin
      Posted July 29, 2020 at 12:57 pm

      Thanks for your thoughts, and I believe it’s important to design the organic waste system so its not inconvenient and smelly for users. Maybe if you could drop off a bag of organic waste (which wouldn’t have to be stored in a freezer, but could be in a simple caddy or outdoor bin) in a shared container at the end of your block, you’d be willing to participate? Or maybe if you would save money by reducing your garbage? These are the things that need to be figured out in conjunction with residents and other stakeholders.

    • Erik Engquist
      Posted August 1, 2020 at 3:03 pm

      I would not jump to conclusions about a program you haven’t tried. I have used it for years. I keep food scraps in a small, covered plastic bin under my sink, not in my freezer. It does not smell. When it fills up, I empty it into my brown plastic bin from DSNY. Odors cannot get out, and rodents cannot get in. It’s wonderful.

      This has also made it far easier for me to store and carry out regular garbage, because with no food waste, it never stinks. And there is far less of it. Our family of four fills just one small plastic bag per week with trash.

      It’s true that many folks did not try separating food scraps, perhaps because they had the same expectations you did. This was their loss — and the city’s.

  • Peter
    Posted July 28, 2020 at 6:23 am

    Sadly, what’s efficient for some is a threat to others. Designing $57M out of the waste system means eliminating $57M in pay for union workers :(

  • Peter
    Posted July 28, 2020 at 6:38 am

    Sadly, what might seem efficient to some is a threat to others. Designing $57M out of the waste system means designing $57M worth of wages away from union workers. Replacing people with robots sounds great but ask those people if they’d rather keep their jobs and see what their representatives are willing to negotiate with the City…

    • Clare Miflin
      Posted July 29, 2020 at 1:03 pm

      A valid concern, but I’m encouraged that Green New Deal organizations are working with union leaders to make sure that people keep jobs in the change to a more sustainable and just future. There are just as many jobs collecting organic waste as garbage, and even if the trucks get automated systems to lift bins / containers, they’d still likely need 2 workers per truck as now. Reducing waste could reduce collection needs, but there are still many options for reassigning work. Creating more options for reuse of materials actually increases labor compared to the current garbage system.

  • Katherine Hanner
    Posted July 28, 2020 at 7:52 am

    The DSNY program failed because it was a “secret”–most people did not have a clue about it. The program was poorly advertised and promoted. Those who did get brown bins did not find their buildings over run by pests or “stinking” but the opposite: because crganics were now secured in rat proof bins and not in easy access black bags. Moreover, the garbage in their own apartments dramatically shrunk is size (and smell!) as organics were removed.

    Ms Miflin makes some good points that one size does not fit all, especially in large cities like NYC. There is room for a redesign of the program. Let’s hope it happens sooner rather than later.

  • V C
    Posted July 28, 2020 at 4:36 pm

    Privatizing waste management, like privatizing anything, will inevitably drive up costs for residents and reduce service quality. I’d be glad to compost organic waste, but austerity is absolutely the worst way to attempt it.

    • Erik Engquist
      Posted August 1, 2020 at 3:07 pm

      Pay-as-you-throw is NOT privatizing waste management.

      Second, the privatized system for commercial waste collection costs LESS than public collection and the service is excellent. Yes, I know workers get paid little and many toil in dangerous conditions. But to your point that it costs more, that is not true.

  • Susan
    Posted August 1, 2020 at 8:06 am

    “To safely and hygienically accommodate pedestrians, vendors, diners, bikes and playing kids, NYC needs to stop using the sidewalk as a garbage dump. “ Good point!!
    We can do this- we need to. In my neighborhood in Crown Heights there was a compost drop off collection site right by the subway that was always busy. I think people see the many benefits of getting organic waste out of their “regular” garbage and used to create a public good…compost.

  • Myron Alexander
    Posted August 1, 2020 at 6:56 pm

    Thank you for your very insightful article. As a business owner in the waste management tech industry, I have noticed an unwillingness for DSNY to reach out to and collaborate with new companies and innovators in the industry. NYC and DSNY must be far more inclusive, innovate and diverse if they want to make any significant progress in addressing this issue.

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