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‘It’s Like a Slum’: Supportive Housing Tenants Cope with Violation-Filled Homes. Provider Blames Underfunding

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  • Stephen B
    Posted July 13, 2022 at 6:29 pm

    Excellent journalism. Thank you for your work!

  • Susan L.
    Posted July 13, 2022 at 8:18 pm

    1. Investigate the per unit rents on the individual leases, preferably go back to the initial lease. Non Profits signed leases for illegally increased base rents, which is how many landlords first participated in renting to supportive housing providers. They were able to circumvent rent stabilization increases.
    2. Request the non profit submissions (applications) to NYS OMH and NYC DoHMH and HASA to see the commitments made by non profits to operate these units and support the client/tenants. In many instances, the non profits commit to the provision of repairs and that is why clients are instructed to inform the case manager.
    3. Now look at the tenant/client lease agreement or whatever is the document they sign upon moving in and see if there are commitments regarding repairs, safe quality housing, etc.
    4. Now look at the policy and procedure manual and verify the reporting of repairs procedure and see what the non profit indicates is their “system” for addressing replacements and repairs. Now where is the tracking system maintained by the non profit for theses Work Orders and how rapidly were the repairs completed.
    How does the case manager document the tenant complaint? How does it get into the tracking system for work orders and how quickly must it be entered? Most important, how does the client get a receipt for the complaint to hold them accountable and what is the grievance procedure when a client/tenant is dissatisfied?
    5. Caren Abate has worked in the NYC Field,Office for more than 20 years and gets the complaint phone calls. Ask for her records of complaints, investigations, and the resolution of the complaints.

    NYS OMH, I don’t know about NYC DoHMH and HASA, has funded supportive apartments since 1991 and never had a system in place for inspecting the housing quality standards. They alleged that the NYS OMH was not responsible for “unlicensed” settings. They avoided direct involvement and preferred to avoid accountability by not officially knowing. 21 years and counting where NYS OMH hides clients in supportive housing. City Limits knows very well from your research on the Adult Home clients abandoned to their deaths in supportive housing.

  • Raymond Schwartz
    Posted July 13, 2022 at 9:15 pm

    Another aspect of supported housing is who signs the lease. If the agency/provider signs the lease and then subleases to the tenant then the tenant has less standing with the landlord. Where the lease is signed by the tenant then the tenant has greater standing and very specific tenant rights and protections. Many housing providers do not have the tenants sign the lease or the tenant is a co-signer with the agency where the tenant has less rights. OMH is expected to make visits to the OMH contracted housing programs, including a sample of resident apartments. Adequate funding for supported housing has been long standing problem and cannot be seen as only an OMH problem as Governors have for many years not cared to support increases.

  • Judith landgraf
    Posted July 13, 2022 at 11:22 pm

    I lived in scatter site housing sponsored by Community Access in Manhattan. It was safe, clean and well maintained

    • Shirley Holmes
      Posted July 15, 2022 at 4:03 am

      What did you do too cause it not to be safe, clean, and will maintenance?

  • National White Month
    Posted July 14, 2022 at 3:22 am

    Stop producing those you can not support… act like a slum, live in a slum, get treated like a slum. If you can’t better yourself, I’m sure as hell not going to do it for you… 3/5th is an exaggeration

    • Virginia Hess
      Posted July 14, 2022 at 6:57 pm

      You’re not Judgemental there at all now are you…

    • It'snevernationalYTmonth
      Posted July 14, 2022 at 10:47 pm

      You clearly missed the entire point of this article. THE LIVING CONDITIONS of these buildings that are GOVERNMENT FUNDED or funded via Non-profit programs WAS THE KEY POINT not THE PEOPLE that live there with mental illness and other disabilities that are in these units Dummy. The landlords clearly getting the funds and not making proper and timely repairs. READING IS FUNDAMENTAL AND KNOWLEDGE IS POWER. If your house, condo, apartment or trailer had lead paint, no gas, no running water etc for months & pest infestation you would have issues with PAYING & STAYING there. I’m sure you wouldn’t be making them your fucking pets and saying everything is great here with a giant smile on your face. To stuck on white is right b.s I see by your ignorant name you used to post your lack of being able to comprehend THE BASE OF A ARTICLE that they teach in elementary school. NATIONAL MONTH OF THE IDIOTIC AWARD GOES TO 🥁 UYT. If you were to lose your job & legs today & every family member & your living environment & became wheelchair bound your situation would change just like these people that DON’T CHOOSE TO LIVE THAT WAY TO HAVE MENTAL ILLNESSES etc THAT IF THEY COULD LIVE BETTER PLACES THEY WOULD. Some people IN ALL NATIONALITIES do create their circumstances via gambling, alcohol or drugs etc and SOME DO NOT some are forced to do so bc they escaped abuse, lost a spouse or other negative situations. Point is IF ANYONE GETS MONEY TO PROVIDE A SERVICE WITH GOVERNMENT $ OR NOT. Use it for what it’s for THE UPKEEP OF THE PROPERTY i.e REMOVING LEAD PAINT, PROVIDING GAS & OTHER WORKING UTILITIES, REPAIRS & UPKEEP IN AND AROUND THE PROPERTY GROUNDS. PERIOD!!!! Stop the judgemental mentality YOU CLEARLY HAVE. Some famous rich people have lived in the same type of places or even their cars before they became rich. And THATS FACTS IF YOU READ PROPERLY.

    • Elizabeth
      Posted July 15, 2022 at 2:17 am

      Seriously, saying something like that after the fall of Roe is beyond arrogant. You also need to check your privilege and think about where your life would be if no one cleaned your office, swept your sidewalk, cooked the food or made the coffee you pick up, serviced you at your favorite grocery store or restaurant, or packed and delivered your packages. These people are necessary and most live in poverty. Without them you would be stuck at the bottom so stop stepping on their backs on your way up and wake up to the reality that all humans deserve safe housing not just the priveledged.

  • Stacy
    Posted July 14, 2022 at 7:02 am

    Thank goodness her,n her kids hv found a habital,clean,decent,safe place she,n the kids can hopefully feel more safe,n secure at. Keep ur head up mama. U,n ur kids r gonna b ok. God has all this. Jus bk up,n let God show up,n show out.

    • Bettye Collins
      Posted July 15, 2022 at 12:20 am

      You have stated a very kind comment regarding the young lady with the child. The housing assistance program was not designed too stay on the program forever if you are able bodied too work, go to school, or buy a home, through the program. Tell her to inquire the FSS program and don’t look back!! No human being should live under those conditions. Start with filing a complaint with Fair Housing Dept., in your Statethe your stat, You also have the Regional Office in your state which is the HUD office over your MHA (housing authority over the county). If they do nothing, take it too the IG’s office in Washington D. C.
      GOGGLE THE INFORMATION
      That man making 913,000 dollars should be investigated by the Attorney General’s for fraudulent practices. Good Luck!

    • S
      Posted July 19, 2022 at 7:58 pm

      TRUTH SPOKE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!CONTINUE TO SPEAK THE TRUTH!!!!!!!

  • Sheila Burton
    Posted July 14, 2022 at 10:04 am

    The same thing is happening in Detroit Michigan how can I get help I have a housing choice voucher received it July 1st 2022 and I can’t even find a house that’s suitable to stay or I can’t afford the security deposit

    • Kathy E Drayton
      Posted July 15, 2022 at 1:06 am

      It’s so sad, that y’all have to go through that. I live in Columbia SC with a voucher, 1 br 790 sq ft washer and dryer dishwasher $300 a month, god bless I pray that things get better!

  • Fee
    Posted July 14, 2022 at 12:08 pm

    Beggars can’t be choosers. Want something better work for it. Stop having babies and expecting society to set you up posh. When the city and tax payers are setting you up with housing they are meeting basic needs nothing more. Don’t like it then stop looking to everyone else to fix it. Get two jobs. You got time to screw and make babies then get yourself out of the slums.

    • Charles Wilson
      Posted July 14, 2022 at 3:04 pm

      Amen . Why are you special

    • FeeUrIgnorant
      Posted July 14, 2022 at 10:03 pm

      Did you even read the article properly stating these tenets have mental illness, HIV/AIDS or other disabilities and the program gets GOVERNMENT $ to RENT out these units? It’s more about the living conditions of the buildings and taking people money &OR GOVERNMENT MONEY and NOT FIXING SHIT w it. Living without gas for several months is unacceptable for anyone RICH MIDDLE CLASS OR IMPOVERISHED. You never know a persons situation of how they got where they are in life. It’s not about having babies and living off the government A H. Reading is FUNDAMENTAL and your clearly heartless. I’m sure most people if they have the means or opportunity not to live in a LEAD PAINT, MOUSE &ROACH infested apartment THEY WOULD NOT. Most of the homeless are VETERANS that I’m sure are entitled to benefits for their service but nobody in the gov looking for them to get them their benefits which for some may include benefits of V.A loan. People don’t wake up saying damn let me go sleep in a building full of roaches, no gas, no heat, no water tonight. It’s people like you that keep the b.s going with this backwards dumb stereotypical thinking. Karma been looking for alot of y’all dummies this year and the list getting longer. JUDGE NOT BE YE NOT JUDGED.

    • Shirley Holmes
      Posted July 15, 2022 at 4:00 am

      Ha! Excellent journalism just words of stories. Stories that has been told for centuries, a waste of words. Why are these stories so over and over again? Generations and generations of people all races have experiencing stories like those. Telling them get you WHAT???

  • Karen
    Posted July 14, 2022 at 2:25 pm

    After reading this I’m glad I don’t live in New York.!

  • Sweetpea
    Posted July 14, 2022 at 2:43 pm

    This is the way it was and continues to be.

    Prior to 2000 when SM landlords and others had month to month contracts. Those who lived in these places had to make the repairs themselves.

    Finally. After tenants fixed the places up and things were reasonable these landlords started to push people out, and when they couldn’t push, they evicted on false grounds and created illegal and retaliatory evictions giving people nothing but grief and leaving them those they jobs because they didn’t now have a home and homeless on the street to pull themselves back up if they could.

    These landlords who do this should have their funds frozen. Car keys taken away and forced to endure living on a tent on the street to experience first hand the pain and suffering and mental illness they create from the harshness of the street first hand.

    I bet their attitudes would change real fast.

    I saw how one guy abused a woman who cleaned my house and the violations. It was sickening. He saw me one day with her and he was nervous. He needed to be.

    This behavior has to stop. The elected officials and judges need to put the screws yo these type of people.

  • Mary Freeman-Croyle
    Posted July 14, 2022 at 6:20 pm

    The need for housing and services for those with mental health issues is apparently far more crucial than we thought! At least two commenters on this thread are exhibiting mental health distress in the form of delusional thoughts, bigotry, narcissism and antisocial behaviors… Yeah, you know who you are.

  • Ed
    Posted July 14, 2022 at 9:28 pm

    It’s almost as if operating a building where people can’t pay their own way is very difficult even for those with the best intentions.

    The Math isn’t mathing, the non-profit would be wise to get out of this business.

  • Danielle C Thompkins
    Posted July 14, 2022 at 9:49 pm

    These kind of situations are happening all around against the mental health omh need to check out all these facilities more people should speak up and not be afraid of consequences and start reporting the abuse bottom line we are all human and everyone has a start middle and ending you never no where life will take you
    Dont judge!!!!!!!!

  • Fuckoffnyc
    Posted July 14, 2022 at 10:22 pm

    This is horrible. Too bad nobody has heard of this “publiction” or will really read it. Maybe if it was a real newspaper or news outlet.

  • Tia Jones
    Posted July 15, 2022 at 1:59 am

    3/5 of WHAT …….??? 🤔🤔🤔👁👁

  • Tia Jones
    Posted July 15, 2022 at 2:03 am

    WHERE IS MY 2nd COMMENT RE:CORPORATE WELFARE and BAILOUTS ……..???

  • Insight
    Posted July 15, 2022 at 7:38 am

    How Dare You.
    You don’t know this woman, or the circumstances that brought her to that horrible apartment, yet you have the audacity to judge her with your hateful ignorance.
    Clearly she is a loving mother trying to do her level best to make a better life for her children and herself, trying to find a good, safe place to live and a better future.
    There are thousands of children who are not so lucky and live in all kinds of homes rich and poor and middle class all over the world who live with abuse, neglect and cruelty because their parent/or parents make their lives a daily hell.
    This mother Choice is clearly a good woman and mother who has had some hard times and is rising to the situation of being a single mother.
    It’s interesting that no mention is made of the father in your hateful judgement. Easy to target a single woman with kids online, right?
    May God bless Choice Scott and her children in a better future.
    And may you learn “Not to judge not lest ye be judged.”

    • GOLIATH to lying David
      Posted July 17, 2022 at 8:37 pm

      Wow.. wonder how much this ignorance will cost your Publisher in defamation law suits. You sure was reaching for a story. It’s sad how you tried to exploit the people of color, for your story. Couldn’t you find any Caucasian that are suffering under the big bad wolf Jacob. Or is he only mistreating the colored tenants?
      First, you said the building was out of gas for seven months, then you say the hot plates were given the pervious summer, which sound more like a year, which is it David…7 months or a year? Your Publisher should’ve told you there’s a difference.. you dummie..And where all the pictures of the repairs.. 2 bullshit pictures.. no pics of mice or roaches.. lol.. you was reaching.. LIAR
      Do you even know scatter site is for single adults, and is not equipped to handle children, and how long the staff was working on obtaining family housing? I know you don’t think this bullshit article got her moved.
      When any building is having con Edison issues where gas or electricity is down the reasonable thing to do at bare minimum is give out hot plates.
      What’s sad is even OMH turned their backs, they didn’t mention to you how the program is audit several times a year, by their inspectors, what did they miss all your imaginary repairs?
      I wonder how Jacob is going to spend the money he makes of your stupidity.
      You should’ve started this fictional shit with.. In a land far far away there was a big bad wolf named Jacob..
      The way you was coming for Jacob, makes me wonder.. was you that kid on the court he didn’t let play.. or maybe your application was denied to get in to the agency…lol.. you sound like a bitter bitch.. just screaming making no sense 😭….

  • GOLIATH to lying David
    Posted July 18, 2022 at 8:21 am

    Wow.. wonder how much this ignorance will cost your Publisher in defamation law suits. You sure was reaching for a story. It’s sad how you tried to exploit the people of color, for your story. Couldn’t you find any Caucasian that are suffering under the big bad wolf Jacob. Or is he only mistreating the colored tenants?
    First, you said the building was out of gas for seven months, then you say the hot plates were given the pervious summer, which sound more like a year, which is it David…7 months or a year? Your Publisher should’ve told you there’s a difference.. you dummie..And where all the pictures of the repairs.. 2 bullshit pictures.. no pics of mice or roaches.. lol.. you was reaching.. LIAR
    Do you even know scatter site is for single adults, and is not equipped to handle children, and how long the staff was working on obtaining family housing? I know you don’t think this bullshit article got her moved.
    When any building is having con Edison issues where gas or electricity is down the reasonable thing to do at bare minimum is give out hot plates.
    What’s sad is even OMH turned their backs, they didn’t mention to you how the program is audit several times a year, by their inspectors, what did they miss all your imaginary repairs?
    I wonder how Jacob is going to spend the money he makes of your stupidity.
    You should’ve started this fictional shit with.. In a land far far away there was a big bad wolf named Jacob..
    The way you was coming for Jacob, makes me wonder.. was you that kid on the court he didn’t let play.. or maybe your application was denied to get in to the agency…lol.. you sound like a bitter bitch.. just screaming making no sense 😭….

  • M. Korn
    Posted July 19, 2022 at 12:05 pm

    It seems that landlords and SH providers frequently play pass the buck rather than take responsibility for making repairs. Are there CLEAR lines as to who is responsible? If not, then there should be a law!
    IMO, the landlord should be responsible since they own the apartment but the SH provider should also be a responsible agent to put pressure on landlords to make repairs. If landlords don’t make repairs, then providers should hold rent in escrow till they do. And if a landlord retaliates against the SH provider there should be additional penalties to the landlord. You want to remove the excuse that SH providers make when they are hesitant to put pressure on landlords for fear of losing a contract with a lousy landlord.

  • Frederick S Brand
    Posted July 20, 2022 at 11:22 am

    So important that you are putting “human faces” to the terrible challenges and inhumane conditions that people with real needs are facing – people and conditions that have been ignored by government and the public for years and that are exacerbated by so-called concerned leaders of non-profits and by criminally negligent and heartless landlords. And a “rainy day” fund of $130M for the agency you describe – all while their tenants are living in a “sh..storm” every day! This is so reminiscent of the 1970’s reporting on the horrible conditions at Willowbrook in Staten Island, so please keep this reporting going. Change will only come when the truth is told and when good people have the courage to step up and advocate for doing the right thing!

  • John
    Posted July 23, 2022 at 10:06 am

    This is not an investigative report but yellow journalism with a goal to destroy SH services. What do you know about the people you interviewed? have you seen their clinical files? How many of SH tenants are working to support themselves? Do you think many landlords are willing to have mentally ill as tenants? Do you believe the public is willing to reduce budgets for police, city workforce, union benefits, infrastructure or sanitation and increase expenses for homeless individuals? Perhaps you believe that we should increase taxes in the city? Your “investigation” is one sided does not have the real facts and should be label as opinion , the same way FOX news define their work.

  • James
    Posted February 22, 2023 at 6:26 pm

    I was at lasalle for over a year. Mice in the apt and being sexually harassed and i am a guy(don’t ask) the apt was big and the location was ok but it was infested w rodents

  • Sugar Ray Loser
    Posted March 4, 2023 at 3:26 am

    Wish we had someone like citylimits out here in oc ca. The supportive housing by way of giving support with landlord management issues. [email protected]
    If you know of weat coast city limits partner out here shoot them my email

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