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In New York’s Fight to Legalize Basement Apartments, What About Cellars? 

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  • si homeowner
    Posted March 14, 2023 at 4:48 pm

    Legalizing cellars is an even worse idea than legalizing basements. Cellars generally have low ceilings and small windows depending when and how the home was constructed. Constructing a separate means of egress will be very expensive because it will entail breaching the foundation to construct stairs. Just an overall bad idea.

  • William Ragusa
    Posted March 17, 2023 at 12:26 pm

    There is a legal distinction between a cellar and a basement. Basements are spaces where more than half of the height of the ceiling is above the curb line out front. Most homes have cellars and the windows are only 18 inches above grade. It’s easier to modify an existing basement to become a studio apartment, though it is not an inexpensive endeavor. The downside to the city’s initiative is that after paying for the renovations, the homeowner can only charge an affordable rent.

  • stan chaz
    Posted March 17, 2023 at 4:30 pm

    The Cellar Dwellers! So-called Civilization moves in strange and mysterious ways indeed. Some praise these erratic movements as progress. But it seems we’ve simply lost our way. We moved from hillside caves to multistory cave dwellings with plumbing – boldly reaching upwards & outwards. But now it seems we want to retreat, to retreat and burrow down, down away from the the light, down from the fresh air, down from the life-giving warmth of the sun, down to places where we can hide away the least of these, instead of creating decent homes for them -and all – to live in human dignity. Visions of busy anthills and super-social beehives are reduced, reduced to the futile burrowing of blind moles, moles tunneling in the dirt, moles treated like the dirt they are forced to inhabit. Housing is basic & essential. We must find a better way.

  • Effective Presenter
    Posted March 20, 2023 at 11:20 am

    We have seen 2 cellars excavated about 4 feet to create duplex type space in Brooklyn Heights brownstones and both flooded when there had been substantial rain brining mold, etc.

    Both projects cost the building owners a bundle $$$ and had to be sealed the excavated cellar now a basement never stopped flooding the water came up through the floor.

  • Stanley Stark
    Posted March 20, 2023 at 2:02 pm

    It would be helpful if an overall survey of the five boroughs could be done to quantify the legal basement apartments vs those which need some work to achieve legal legal status.

  • joanna minos
    Posted December 6, 2023 at 4:34 pm

    I think it all depends if the cellars and or basements are livable. I believe back in the early 1900’s most basements were called cellars.
    But now i think most owners have really fixed up their cellars/basements and are using the space wisely like recreational space and gyms and office space. They have invested a lot of money in fixing and beautifying their basements. I believe that they should be heard and seen. and might even be livable why not make them legal. If they have windows and air and 2 forms of entry and exits. I mean we as landlords are paying so much lately in taxes and water and insurance. We should be able to make our homes livable. And also provide much needed apartments in this city.

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