10 thoughts on “CityViews: Hold Uber and Lyft Accountable for Shortchanging Drivers

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  2. I live in New York City and use Uber a lot and talk to the drivers. My experience has been most of the drivers work part time mostly evenings and weekends. Some have claimed they make more money on weekends then their weekly day job. Some are in school and drive for extra money. So your assumptions aren’t completely accurate. The taxi drivers are typically not the owners of the medallion which is quite costly to obtain. They don’t own the taxis, so the taxis are in terrible condition. I could write pages on the differences. There is no contest between the two enterprises from a consumer point of view. Uber is truly the winner. It’s a brilliant concept.

    • I am FHV driver and I don’t agree with what you’re saying about drivers working part time. With all of the DMV/TLC fees and costly commercial insurance you CANNOT work part time in NYC it doesn’t make any sense at all.

    • Those drivers are afraid of telling the truth that may not like and would leave a bad rating. I drove for Lyft several weeks full time as a social experiment of my own research. I had to spend over 45 – 80 hrs (6-10 hrs everyday) and 1200 -1500 miles each week to complete the requirements for the bonuses. Without the bonuses, I would end up getting $4-6 / hr after deducting GAS, CAR INSURANCE & MAINTENANCE, BUSINESS LICENSE, and SELF EMPLOYMENT TAXES. That does not even include the health insurance costs. With the bonuses, I was able to up it to about $6-7 / hr. If I keep driving full time for Lyft, I would have to replace my car the next year. That would make my earnings basically back to $4-5 / hr after the bonuses.

    • Would your conclusion change if the taxi medallions were owned mostly by the drivers, or if Uber stopped subsidizing your ride (remember, they lost 4.5 billion last year), or if it clearly shown that the unrestricted number of Uber/Lyft has a negative impact on the environment? Probably not. And why should it as long as the trips, for whatever the reasons, remain cheap and convenient for YOU.

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  5. Upton Sinclair once famously said, “I aimed at the public’s heart, and by accident I hit it in the stomach.” I think he was referring to his work, “The Jungle” where his intent was to expose the terrible working conditions in the meat packing plants at the turn of the century, but the “public” (being the selfish pigs we are) instead fell into an uproar about the sanitation of the food. Sadly, the working conditions of the workers fell by the wayside. Problem for Sinclair was that with the exception of the few “muckrakers”, the establishment journalists and politicians at that time prioritized their stories through the needs of their stomach as well, both literally (we all eat) and figuratively (who pays the bills).

    So it is today, unfortunately, same as yesterday….. that as long as Uber is making my transportation cheap and convenient, especially since they’re subsidizing my ride at the tune of $4.5 Billion last year, who cares that they’re decimating a taxi industry that once provided sustainable income for tens of thousands of families and replacing it with hundreds of thousands of less than minimum wage part-time gigs?

    Kalanick (Libertarian), in a sense, was a lot smarter than Sinclair (Idealist). Kalanick’s aim has always been at the stomach because he knows that human nature is to speak from the heart but act with the stomach. That is why self-sacrifice and heroism are as rare as greed and hypocrisy are common.

    I fear that we have no muckrakers left?

  6. The term “rideshare” is a gross inaccuracy. Nobody is sharing rides or anything else. The drivers buy or lease cars by virtue of Uber’s direction to an auto dealer or leasing company. Most of these drivers never owned a car until then. Suckered in by promises of huge incomes, drivers are churned at horrifying rates annually. Horror stories abound of drivers not knowing the geography, being neophyte operators, and vehicles starting to breakdown as they age with multiple lease drivers. This is a technology enabled taxi company who has been allowed to break all norms and rules in order to destroy a system that gave life to many poor immigrants.

  7. Lyft wants drivers to drive 31 min, 25 min to pick up passengers. If you don’t accept these request you receive a text message and email that this is not good for the Lyft Community and passengers not to accept these request. Driver’s are expected to drive this distance without getting paid. Driver’s are supposed to be independent contractor. But are treated with deactivation of their account, if they continue not to accept these request. Lyft actually put drivers in a 30 min timeout for not accepting ride request. Driver’s are actually employees who are reprimanded.

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