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Dangerous drivers still on city streets despite thousands of speeding tickets

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  • nyc101
    Posted January 15, 2020 at 9:47 am

    Of doubtful constitutionality. A driver is responsible for their own actions, not for the actions of another driver using their vehicle. Many cars are parked on private property when not in use. The city can’t boot those without a search warrant.

  • jt
    Posted January 15, 2020 at 12:09 pm

    It seems to me that auto registration could require the owner to commit to reporting who was at the wheel when a violation was received. And if they don’t, the registration is suspended and the car is booted/towed etc. if ever found on public property.

    Owning a car is not a right.

    Then, we’d have records of who was driving badly, and their licenses could be pulled (and they should be arrested if driving with a suspended license).

    All this required the political will.

    • Alex
      Posted January 17, 2020 at 1:48 pm

      The problem with that logic is that if you have a large family of drivers who share a car you might not know who was driving. These money making tickets are mailed out weeks or months after the incident. No one is going to remember who was driving on that day, especially if it is route the whole family uses.

      This what happens when the city is more interested in making money than in safety. Camera tickets are all about making money. If safety was a real concern cops would be out there giving tickets to a driver who will driver better or lose their license.

  • dannyb
    Posted January 15, 2020 at 7:01 pm

    Might I make a suggestion that would bypass the Fourth Amendment and other related issues. Simply adjust the fines to be progressive, with the 1st at, say, $25, the 2nd, $50, 3rd: $100… and cap it at $500. Note that we’ve _already_ get traffic fines of $500, namely for e-bikes (whose owners are least likely to be able to afford them).
    That way, the “oops” driver will pay the same, or even less, than today. But the serial abuser will quickly learn her lesson.
    Oh, for good measure, add a $250 surcharge for any license plate that’s missing/defaced/covered and that requires a human to scrutinize the image. And $500 for the second..

    • Alex
      Posted January 17, 2020 at 1:49 pm

      Good idea, but only if they make it possible to get a fair trial. Right now the laws were changed so that you are presumed guilty. How are you supposed to cross examine a camera?

  • Nikonian
    Posted January 15, 2020 at 9:42 pm

    Where is the data sheet that proves higher speed is unsafe. Instead of using speeding as a boogeyman why not do qhat provea to be much more effective, putting in dividers, narrowing the lane widths and painting much bolder markings. That has been proven to both save lives and lower the speed limit. Lowering the speed limit often hasnt proven to work and data seems far and few in between. Everybody sources enforcement and ticket rates but seldom deaths releated to speed.

    • Alex
      Posted January 17, 2020 at 1:52 pm

      Dumb question. Everything you suggest is what the city would do if they wanted to increase safety and actually get drivers to slow down on their own. Camera systems make millions of dollars for the city and even more money for the camera operators, so they have no reason to do the right thing when they can make so much money. Don’t fool yourself, this is only about making money.

    • Claude
      Posted January 21, 2020 at 10:26 am

      “Where is the data sheet that proves higher speed is unsafe”
      I know that the fast is safe cliche is common in the libertarian right, but have you actually thought it through?
      If you knew that you were fated to be in three events; A truck would pull into your path as you rounded a blind curve, a car would run into you and you would run into a tree: Would you rather have the vehicle moving at 10 mph or 100 mph?
      The faster a vehicle is moving, all else being the same, the less reaction time you have to avoid a collision and the higher the energy of the collision will be.
      So which is safer? Do you choose the 10 mph because it will hurt less or 100 mph because it’s just as safe.
      Narrowing the lanes does make the road safer, as does curbside parking and street trees. they make the road safer by slowing the cars. And slower drivers who pay more attention really are safer than speed demons. Regardless of libertarian rhetoric.

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