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Opinion: What Happened When One NYC School Decided to Really Talk About Race

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  • Jeremy Shatan
    Posted June 5, 2019 at 9:39 am

    This article gives me hope in many ways. Keep up the good work.

  • Shleffy
    Posted June 5, 2019 at 2:27 pm

    The elephant in the room is Asian students.. They do not seem to require anything except hitting the books, studying hard, and getting the results. They are not asking to ‘pursue racial justice’ except when the do-gooders take illogical steps to put them at disadvantage, despite the Civil Rights Act.
    You should have asked – what is it that many Asian students do to succeed ? Everything else is dancing around on Kool Aid.

    • nyc101
      Posted June 6, 2019 at 12:13 pm

      In this new environment the Asian students and their parents are the enemy. They work hard and demand nothing.

      ‘We began to talk about Whiteness and the three I’s of racism (institutional, interpersonal, and internalized). It was hard, and there was discomfort, there were tears, there was pushback.’
      –Sounds just like the Communist Chinese ‘re-education’ camps under Mao.

      Ms. Friedman is assigned to PS63, I don’t know why she admitted that important information from her article:
      https://www.staracademyps63.com/school-leaders

      • Equity for All
        Posted June 7, 2019 at 4:30 am

        I disagree. Asian students are not even aware of the subtle forms they experience to succumb to whiteness. For example, instead of using their given name, they give anglo names to teachers. I’ve read beautiful books like My name is Yoon because I want them to feel a sense of pride in their identity. Black and Brown people have their history here in the states and so do Asians. But there is an omission of history, purposely so people cannot see the similarities in the U.S. experience. There’s also a misconception that Asian students don’t go through cultural identity crisis and that all Asians are successful academically. I’ve had Asian students and even colleagues who have shared that they felt their families see them as unsuccessful for choosing professions or colleges that were not white collar, Ivy League like schools . The issue is that Asian families feel omitted from the conversation and therefore consider themselves as the enemy. I could understand. But to use stereotypes to add to the disrespect of another group because of that or compare groups of people
        Is unfair and solves nothing. I know that, China has. Had the longest formal educational system in the world with a focus on. Math first. The high stakes of passing a test just to get into college that forces poor ppl to sacrifice for that better life, that is carried over when they arrive here. I respect it and understand it and it’s just a small part of my own learning in trying to understand differences. Black and Latinos were colonized and oppressed by Europeans for centuries. Their experiences are based on institutional racism that made sure they couldn’t get an education and it wasn’t until the civil rights movement that we began to see access happen and still not in an equitable way. That was only in 50’s. There are many Black and Latino students who also try their best. Depending on the countries Latinos come from, and social class, their educational experiences they come with are also different. But it doesn’t mean the U.S. educational system has got it right. it’s not about getting the educational system here to stop oppressing our students and start giving them what they all need.

        • nyc101
          Posted June 7, 2019 at 2:09 pm

          You can talk and talk about race forever but that doesn’t change the fact that the NYC school system is only 15% white. So how can whites be the problem?

          NYCDOE stats – https://data.cityofnewyork.us/Education/2018-2019-Demographic-Snapshot-by-Borough/uh2w-zjsn

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            Jarrett Murphy
            Posted June 7, 2019 at 4:02 pm

            That’s a fair point, but don’t oversell it: 15 percent of the DOE is 170,000 kids. That’s 94 white kids for each of the district’s 1800 schools — not that you’d split them up like that, but there’s still a bit of diversity to go around.

        • John Konop
          Posted June 8, 2019 at 12:05 pm

          I thought this was about the effect on education gaps? It seems Asians are being discriminated for achieving? How does that make sense? Does that not point to a family culture problem in community for lack of achievement? White Appalachians have the worse education problems, is that racism?

  • pattay
    Posted June 5, 2019 at 9:09 pm

    Thank you Ms. Friedman for addressing this issue. it is one of the most important topic that you can discuss.

  • Ms. Penn
    Posted June 7, 2019 at 9:07 pm

    How many Black|Brown teachers are employed in your school? I hope you are able to continue exploing race issues in a meaningful way without falling prey to trite, pandering perspectives.

  • Lauren Cheng
    Posted June 11, 2019 at 12:36 pm

    I honestly am tiered of this “white supremacy” nonsense. You know why Jews and Asians are successful despite being repressed and descriminated against? Because they don’t feel sorry for themselves and work hard! The majority of Jewish and Asisan parents are involved in their children’s education and their day to day lives.
    Do you think any of this ‘anti-whiteness’ stuff will help? No. The students who aren’t successful at my school show up with Air Jordans, fancy smart phones and yet come without pencils. Their reasoning? “That’s your job. I am poor. You’re Asian so you’re rich. You pay for my pencils.”
    My parents came from China. We were a family a five living in a two bedroom apartment. My parents made sure that we were doing our homework. How dare De Blasio! Reading this completely dismisses all of the hard work and sacrifices my parents made. Oh, and what about Holocaust survivors? My husband’s grandmother hid in the forests of Poland for three years during WWII and had 95% of her family murdered. She came here and had three very successful children. Do you think she had it easy? Yes, dismiss them as well. Dismiss the Irish who were also discriminated against. Ever seen those old photos with “Irish need not apply” signs? Well, I’d say they’re doing pretty well now. Why not read the book “The Jungle” by Upton Sinclair. Right, they had it so easy because they were white.
    Why this obsession with race? Just study hard, get an education, get a good job and help other people once at the top. There is no institutionalized racisim in America. All this has been doing is making people hate whites and Asians. How is this our fault? Do your homework! Study! Work hard! Parents should show up to parent teacher conferences. Fathers shouldn’t abandon their kids. It has nothing to do with race. It has to do with lousy parenting and a self-pitying way of thinking.

    • Neal Zephyrin
      Posted June 12, 2019 at 10:49 am

      My recommendation is you read up on real American History (and not the nonsense they make you study in schools that purports Columbus as the explorer who discovered America!)and Race Relations in this country and the root of systemic and institutionalized racism before giving your overly simplistic and offensive solutions. i always find beneficiaries of white supremacy will defend its inequities as long as thy are bestowed scraps of privilege even though they themselves are not white.

      • Sal
        Posted August 29, 2019 at 12:00 am

        Again. You are blaming something or someone! That is the thought pattern that will get you the same location where you started. Everyone knows that Columbus didn’t discover America. I was even taught in school about that. Also, is really practical. Kids need to study to pass an exam. How long does an average student study?

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