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Opinion: Is it Time for NYers to Park Their SUVs … Permanently?

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  • nyc101
    Posted November 7, 2019 at 4:01 pm

    ‘That’s a baffling observation considering New York City is such a progressive and Democratic party stronghold.’

    What on earth does party affiliation have to do with what kind of car someone drives? Are you really that stupid? People buy cars based on cost, their driving needs, size of family, etc.

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      Jarrett Murphy
      Posted November 7, 2019 at 5:38 pm

      Well, some consumers take their politics/morals when they go shopping, for groceries or for cars. I’m a baseball coach (tons of equipment), play in a rock band (mucho equipment), do lots of home improvement projects requiring large and heavy materials and go camping a lot (often too much equipment). We’ve driven from NYC to places like Maine, Indiana, New Orleans. A Prius is about the worst possible car for all that stuff and a family of four and long trips but we bought it because we wanted to emit less and use less fuel. It occurs to me that the second-biggest purchase you make (with your home being No. 1) ought to reflect your values. Do you disagree?

      • nyc101
        Posted November 7, 2019 at 7:15 pm

        I disagree. I bought a 2019 Camry because it’s a well-constructed sedan with great mileage, roughly 26mpg in the city. Politics is for elections. My house has a driveway so parking it isn’t an issue for me, and there’s no ASP in my neighborhood anyway. Check out the Corolla or the Civic, taking a tiny Prius on long trips on the interstates sounds scary.

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          Jarrett Murphy
          Posted November 8, 2019 at 7:38 am

          Camrys are incredible cars for sure — my family had one of the early ones and it lasted forever. And they’re mostly made in Kentucky, I think. But if you’re a good driver (and, of course, I am!) the Prius is very safe. We’ve driven it for six years and, for 11 years before that, a Honda Civic hybrid. I’m glad you’re happy with your ride, but I’m afraid 26 mpg doesn’t count as good mileage when I’m getting 40 to 50, or no less than 35 even if I’m speeding. Voting is for elections; politics is what you believe is right, and that’s an everyday thing.

    • Guest
      Posted November 14, 2019 at 4:15 pm

      People buy cars according to what other people will think of them driving it, cost, and then need. Hatchbacks and wagons have almost as much, if not equal or more space than most SUVs. All NYC roads are paved and don’t require additional ride height.

      But I also blame the automakers for not providing more hatchback/wagon options.

    • Lynn
      Posted March 11, 2020 at 6:58 pm

      I disagree with your comment, and concur 100% with Cody Lyon.

      I also find your notion that “People buy cars based on cost, their driving needs, size of family, etc.” rather comical. Allow me to break it down…

      Cost: SUVs sell anywhere from $20k-60k, with the typical models now seen on NYC streets being RAV4, Denali, Yukon, Navigator and Suburban. We are also seeing an increase in Jeep Wranglers and 4x4s, which run from $25k-29k. The most popular models of 4-door sedan on the other hand (i.e., Toyota Camry, Honda Civic, etc.) cost about $20k-25k. So your suggestion that folks are leaning towards SUVs for ‘cost’ (savings) is comical.

      Driving needs: It’s not clear what you mean by ‘driving need’? Ability for speed? Long-distance travel? Ability for all-terrain…for driving in the snow? Either way, your average NYC vehicle-owners has no special ‘driving needs’.

      Size of family: Oh…this one is my favorite! Take a good hard look at all the SUVs…the Jeeps….the Range Rovers… the Escalades…the 4x4s, etc. and which litter NYC streets. I don’t know about you, but I’m not seeing anything that resembles the Walton Family. lol. No, my friend, most of the owners of these vehicles are single men, or a couple with no kids, or a couple with perhaps 2-3 kids. Funny how, back in the day, an entire family of SIX could fit into one station wagon with all their luggage, and go on vacation out of state. But now? Now everyone needs an SUV?

      Nope.

      It all stems from brainwashing by the auto-industry (SUVs and similar = The American Way… freedom…’safety’….comfort…), a monkey-see-monkey-do mentality (well, everyone else out there has an SUV, so I guess I should too…), folks (esp. macho men) wanting to be a big badass on the road, etc. We’ve heard it all….’I need an SUV cuz I have kids…I have elderly parents….we make big trips to the supermarket…my kids play sports…I’m in a band… car dealers aren’t selling cars anymore/it’s all SUVs at the dealerships blahblahblah’. Yet, many other folks manage to buy 4-door sedans just fine. Many other folks (who are disabled, who are elderly, who have kids, etc.) manage without owning a car just fine.

      Particularly in a dense city such as NYC, and with its vast network of public transit, taxis, delivery services, etc. the options are endless. Subway, MTA buses, Metro North, LIRR, car rental, carsharing services, taxis, cycling, walking, MTA pickup services for the disabled/elderly, etc.

      We are tired of the excuses. The Majority of NYCers do Not own cars, and yet we have relinquished far too much of our public space, our health (local air pollution, pedestrian/cyclist injuries/deaths) and the health of our planet, all for selfish individuals who have a litany of excuses as to why ‘they’ need their private vehicle. Most of it comes from brainwashing, convenience (‘I don’t want to have to mingle with gross strangers on the subway…I don’t want to have to wait for a train…I don’t want to have to carry a bag….’), laziness and habit (most car owners I know reach for their keys to go anywhere and everywhere, even when walking, cyclist, or public transit are not just totally viable options, but will often get them where they need to go, FASTER. I have car-owning friends who have the audacity to suggest driving us somewhere while lamenting how ‘awful’ the traffic and/or parking situation will be. It’s positively stupefying. And sadly, very common.

      There was time when we thought smoking was a ‘right’. Those who did Not smoke accepted it as an unfortunate, unavoidable norm that we simply had to live with. Folks smoked anywhere and everywhere. Others around them had to suffer the consequences. And then, through a very successful campaign, society has done a total 360. We now look back and think ‘how perverted was that…that folks could smoke on airplanes…in offices??”

      And so too will it one day be regarding the proliferation of privately-owned two-ton Suburban Assault Vehicles (SAVs), and which we have allowed to litter our neighborhood streets, injure and kill countless cyclists and pedestrians (with the drivers typically suffering NO legal repercussions), control far too much of OUR public space, pollute our local air and be a major contributor to the destruction of our planet.

      Time for the Majority to revolt in OUR streets. ;-)

  • MotoBX
    Posted November 8, 2019 at 7:39 am

    A simple solution to cover multiple issues:

    Citywide implementation of Residential Parking Permits with an eye towards the space a vehicle takes up and how much it damages our roads. Motorcycles and Scooters pay the least (you can fit 6 in a single car spot), standard vehicles under 3500 lbs pay the “regular” fee (4,500 lbs for full electrics), anything above that pays a large vehicle fee. Additional fees would apply to any subsequent vehicles registered to a household. Proof of registration to an NYC address as well as proof of insurance (with the same address) required.

  • vooch
    Posted November 8, 2019 at 8:01 am

    the fairest method to account for size , etc would be to asses a annual road damage fee based on a vehicles weight.

    road damage is a function to the 4th power by weight. Assessing a annual road damage fee would be a fair way to charge monster vehicles for their negative externalities.

    For example –

    if a 2,5000lbs vehicle would be assessed a $100 annual road damage fee

    then a 5,000lbs vehicle would be assessed a $3,000 annual road damage fee

    and a 7,000lbs vehicle would be assessed a $6,000 annual road damage fee !

    Weight has a huge impact on the amount of road damage a vehicle causes.

    It’s only fair that heavier vehicles pays for the road damage they cause.

    • Jason
      Posted May 6, 2023 at 8:14 pm

      Hate to break it to you, but this is already accounted for in your bi-annual registration fees already paid to the state and local area.

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