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Hospital Closures and Medicaid Shifts Took Toll on NYC’s Health

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  • Mrs. S
    Posted March 28, 2020 at 3:35 pm

    The paragraph that stood out the most to me was the one that said this:

    “In the last week of December the New York Times reported that 5,000 doctors signed a letter protesting the AMAā€™s endorsement of Price as Trumpā€™s nominee for Health and Human Services, which controls Medicare, Medicaid, the Affordable Care Actā€™s federal health insurance exchanges as well as the National Institutes of Health, the Food and Drug Administration and the Centers for Disease Control. In a letter to Trump and congressional leaders in December, the two biggest hospital trade groups warned of ā€œan unprecedented public health crisisā€ if the ACA is repealed, the Times also reported.”

    So, just what, exactly, is going on? Are the powers that be playing with people’s lives over political spats? Shame shame shame!!!

    • Rob Roberts
      Posted March 29, 2020 at 2:20 pm

      Yes we need to be extremely concerned about a petition signed by
      .004% of US physicians

      • T
        Posted April 6, 2020 at 10:28 am

        There are not 100 million doctors in america.

        • LC
          Posted April 13, 2020 at 7:36 am

          Your math is wrong too! šŸ¤£

      • Matt
        Posted April 16, 2020 at 4:28 pm

        You mean 0.4%

  • Gary W Moore
    Posted March 28, 2020 at 4:33 pm

    It’s criminal the way the media the management of major liberal run cities, with the willing support of the msm, have tried to shift the blame for their healthcare and homeless failures to President Trump, even though these situations and failures have been fomenting for years.

  • Linda King
    Posted March 28, 2020 at 5:55 pm

    As a retired CPA, I have watched the evolution of our health care system since the Medicare began in 1966. Today, Medicare, Medicaid, and Affordable Care Act are all under Federal Government Health and Human Services. Here is a simple example: Doctor visit with lab work ~ $220 charge, Medicare allowable cost $58, Medicare pays 80% $46.80 and the patient is responsible for the balance. If they have a supplemental, Medicare has dictated the maximum allowed to be paid $58. The patient nor the supplement are allowed to pay more. This is why hospitals, Doctor’s office. and emergency care facilities are going out of business. Our Government health cares are bankrupting them!!

    • Rosanne Hall
      Posted March 29, 2020 at 10:27 pm

      Medicaid pays less than Medicare. Thus expanding it only makes things worse

    • Kat
      Posted April 5, 2020 at 11:11 pm

      The balance on this bill would be $11.20, which I totally understand could be hard to pay for someone with no or low income to pay. But that is NOT the reason hospitals, physician’s offices or ER facilities are going out of business. The reason is there is no price transparency in our health care system. Yes, the government does determine how much a procedure Medicare will pay for. Which is why you see so many physicians refusing to accept Medicare patients. The hospital and physician conglomerates make the pricing up in accordance how the patient is paying. They make contracts with the insurance carriers on what they will charge so they get “full” reimbursement. So if I have a great insurance plan, that has a better contract than a smaller carrier’s plan because they don’t have a big corporation of hospitals and physicians backing them up, they are going to charge me twice as much and the insurance carrier is going to pay them a higher amount. THAT is what is bankrupting and forcing the smaller facilities out of business. An emergency appendectomy should have a cost range relative to the situation, not a wide array of charges depending on where the hospital is located, who owns it, etc. These large corporations have the power to line their pockets as a whole while your local surgeon that goes to the small 30 bed hospital in their area has no choice but to accept what the government (Medicare) says that same procedure is worth. The ACA law says that an insurance carrier can only make a 20% profit for admin, salaries, marketing, etc. If they do not spend 80% of the premium on actual health care for the insured, they must refund them the overage. Maybe hospitals and physicians should be regulated in the same way, then you have a fair system and everyone gets fair and equal service, regardless of their income or if they have insurance. I should be able to search for a procedure on the internet and price compare just like I do a 70″ television. AMA would not go for that, they aren’t going bankrupt, they are spending millions of dollars to make sure that there is NO price transparency. So while I personally think the ACA is the worst and most unfair law ever passed, it isn’t actually bankrupting the money grubbing hospital and physicians, their greed is doing that.

      • shirl
        Posted April 30, 2020 at 6:07 pm

        you are right on reimursements, and contractual agreements

    • Dr B
      Posted April 8, 2020 at 7:08 pm

      Thank you for sharing your observations. I have spent 40 years working at three major hospitals with outpatient clinical sites. My view is the government payment system has Walmarted health care. Only health care
      systems thst get larger and push overhead lower survive.

    • Shirl
      Posted April 30, 2020 at 6:05 pm

      If a doctor visit maybe so, if just lab work, Medicare pays for covered lab services, thus it would just be a physician cost share, under Original Medicare, or a copay, under a Medicare advantage plan, and the lab was covered 100%. Medicare was set up for people on retirement income. You’d be surprised how many people live off of < $1500/mo, still, as they had no pensions, nor retiree medical plans. Medicare has served the purpose, so far, unless someone comes up with a better plan, i.e., socialized medicine, or something else. We haven't seen the proposals from Trump for a better plan, yet. We will always have to tweak a system in order to get it to work better each year. There has been a disparity among access to care for years. It is really sad how it evolved to the providers/hospitals not being able to operate financially. That made the access to care even worse. Who has the answers?

  • Expat47
    Posted April 1, 2020 at 12:34 am

    Get the government out of the health care insurance business then start going after the industry for price gouging and I’ll bet you dimes to dollars that prices will fall like a rock.

    • Gary
      Posted April 3, 2020 at 5:05 pm

      Two thumbs up!

    • Bill Wood
      Posted April 12, 2020 at 1:07 pm

      Go after the LAWYERS who file fake malpractice claims and limit damages unless there is CLEAR negligence and you will solve the problem.

      PRICE GOUGING is NOT what you think it is!

      #1 and #2 are lawyers and government bureaucracy. It may not be in that order but THAT is what drives the cost of healthcare.

      To hear so many complain about prescription drug prices you might be surprised to know. While there may be $.010 in chemical costs to produce a drug, JUST to get through government compliance, research, trials, etc., can cost OVER $1 BILLION. Part of that is because they may have $10’s, or even $100’s of millions in R&D on some drugs that never make it to market. Part of it is the legal issues. If 1 person dies, even if 1 MILLION are saved, they have to accept there are will be MANY millions in settlements or lawsuits paid. EVEN in some cases if the risks were clearly explained and even if the person ABUSES the drug.

      There are a lot more factors than “greedy” medical practice, although that IS a factor too. To understand, just look at their profit margins. Although some do VERY well in certain years (new drug released that “takes off”), overall the net profit margin averages 12.5% to 14%. That IS respectable but is certainly NOT obscene. You can NOT rely on gross margins because there are many extra costs buried in there that do not come out until you get to a NET margin. For example, tax deductions for previous failed R&D expenses on drugs that never make it to market.

      You will almost always find people quoted either the BIG dollars or the gross margin but never getting to the net margin. And that NET margin is LESS than the government tax on gas at the pump, and is LESS than the 15%+ they take out of your paycheck in FICA, SS, Medicare, AND the hidden employer MATCHED contribution.

      None of those things support the LIBERAL ATTACK agenda to take over health care though so you never hear about them.

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      The reasons above (mostly lawyers and regulatory) are why there is such a HUGE cost difference for drugs in the US verses developing and 3rd world countries. They are not NEARLY as strict as we are. For the most part, if the US approves a drug it is often rubber stamped in many other countries. And their legal system is not nearly as accommodating in supporting frivolous victim claims. So, the cost of doing business in those countries is RADICALLY lower.

  • Just Me
    Posted April 4, 2020 at 9:35 pm

    On the last day of December 2016, Gov. Andrew Cuomo vetoed a bill that would have increased the reimbursements to hospitals that provide a disproportionate share of care to Medicaid patients as well as uninsured patients. The bill, despite being supported by both legislative houses in Albany, would result in ā€œincreased and unbudgeted costs to the Medicaid program,ā€ the governor wrote explaining the veto. The governor said any changes to the reimbursement system should be done through the stateā€™s budgetary process.

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