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City Will Give Public a Bigger Voice on Clean Water Plans

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  • native new yorker
    Posted December 14, 2017 at 10:04 am

    ‘Advocates also believe that a better system for water rates that takes account of the stormwater that a property produces could reduce concerns about unfairness to low-income renters and homeowners.’

    Charging homeowners for the stormwater that runs off their property? Another excuse to pick homeowners pockets.

    Speaking of NYC’s aging water/sewer system. Can it handle all the new high-rise apartment/condo buildings going up in Brooklyn and Queens?

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      Jarrett Murphy
      Posted December 14, 2017 at 12:57 pm

      I think the stormwater fees would mainly target large-footprint businesses. The idea would be to tilt the fee system away from hitting homeowners and residential landlords/renters as hard as they now get hit.

      Take a commercial parking lot. They don’t currently pay much for the water/sewer system because there’s little drinking water consumption on site, and that’s what water/sewer fees are based on now. But all that asphalt takes on a lot of rain, sweeps up oil and other fluids from the cars that park there, goes into drains, and either contributes to the CSO problem or, where there are separate sewers, goes straight into the river/creek/bay nearby. That’s what a new fee structure might try to incentivize around.

      • Larry Levine, Senior Attorney, Natural Resources Defense Council
        Posted December 15, 2017 at 1:47 am

        Jarret, that’s exactly right. Homeowners already pay for the privilege of putting stormwater from their property into the public sewers. It’s just not labeled that way on their bills — and the amount they pay is based on drinking water use, which has absolutely nothing to do with how much stormwater flows off of their property! A stormwater fee isn’t a scheme to take money from homeowners — or from anyone else. It’s a fairer way to pay for the sewer system that all New Yorkers need and deserve.

  • native new yorker
    Posted December 15, 2017 at 10:33 am

    The city just can’t tax everything forever. In your example would the ‘runoff tax’ vary based on yearly precipitation totals? Commercial property owners will just past those costs on to their tenants/customers which only makes NYC a more expensive place to do business.

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      Jarrett Murphy
      Posted December 15, 2017 at 6:55 pm

      Or, business owners can take responsible steps to control runoff and pay less. The thing to keep in mind is excessive stormwater runoff has an impact, and in some cases a direct financial cost, now — environmental problems we’ll have to clean up, wear and tear and operating costs at the WWTPs, potential federal fines, and so far. This is not about creating a cost, but rather distributing it differently.

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