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Anger Over Development, School Rezoning Fuels West Side Council Clash

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  • native new yorker
    Posted July 28, 2017 at 9:37 am

    Looks like even the diehard white liberals of the UWS want safe schools for their kids. And who could blame them.

  • UWSider in LT
    Posted July 28, 2017 at 7:22 pm

    Make no mistake! Helen Rosenthal’s lame attempt to make herself look like she stood alone against racism IS A FARCE. Outside of politics I’m sure you can count her minority friends on one finger. In her attempt to use the UWS to run for Controller or Public Advocate, she has neglected the neighborhood. Nobody but her campaign really even knew who she was until the rezoning issue. As a parent who attended every single meeting on this, I can also say that Kim Watkins is not being truthful when she says Helen came to all of them. She DID NOT! As is her pattern, Helen Rosenthal takes credit for many things here but has done little or no work to earn the accolades. She has told us over the years that “nothing can be done” about 200 Amsterdam, then swoops in late in the game to attach herself to the delay ruling. As a minority Upper West Sider the rezoning issue is about Math not Melanin. Only 1 out of ten kids can read in that system, yet they took the principal and her failing staff to a new building, forced in the middle class parents who will pay for tutoring and even teachers to make up for the shortcomings that will raise scores and make the CEC3 and the DOE look like they were right. Rosenthal gave both middle fingers to the UWS and Lincoln Towers. In Sept, we will return the favor.

    • Hellno ToHelen
      Posted August 30, 2017 at 7:37 am

      You are correct! This long, seemingly detailed article is wrong in several places as it relates to the school zoning, and it misses the key points entirely. The article states PS 452 was overcrowded. It was far from over crowded, in fact it was hoping to grow. PS 452 was first opened only a few years ago to help alleviate the overcrowding at PS 87, which it successfully did! Closing PS 452 on West 77th Street and re-drawing the surrounding zoning lines has lead to a return to over crowding not only at PS 87 but also PS 199, PS 9 and PS 166. Second, the article makes it seem as though the CEC was unitedly in favor of this rezoning and re-siting plan. The truth is that the CEC took an unprecedented and perhaps illegal step by acting outside of its appointed role, which was to vote on any plan presented to it by the DOE. Instead, certain CEC members CREATED the plan, behind closed doors (and in apparent violation of Open Meetings Law – see the published advisory opinion which states so) and without the knowledge of all CEC members (see statements by then member Noah Gotbaum). This was always an issue of elementary school capacity – the DOE had long planned to open a new school in the southern portion of District 3 but the CEC, with Helen’s help, squashed that plan, instead voting to permanently close over 300 seats in the area. Helen and the CEC’s turning of this situation into race relations is disgraceful not only because it is wrong but also because neither Helen nor any single member of the CEC was personally impacted by their plan. How convenient for them. This is Trumpism. Helen should be booted out.

  • Native Upper West Sider
    Posted July 30, 2017 at 6:26 am

    When Assembly member Linda Rosenthal, BP Gale Brewer, Comptroller Scott Stringer, and Congress member Nadler are not for a school redistricing plan and CM Helen Rosenthal is perhaps there is something wrong with the plan. Calling your colleagues cowards and your constituents racists is not leadership. It’s one more example of the kind of vindictive politics that Helen Rosenthal practices. She lost Lincoln Towers in the last race and now she is punishing them. Helen just took advantage of a situation. Something she does regularly.

  • Dr. Cary Goodman
    Posted July 30, 2017 at 8:59 pm

    I am the only ,candidate in this race with a platform — on development, education, small businesses, gender equity, etc. http://WWW.VOTECARYGOODMAN.COM.

  • John ling
    Posted August 1, 2017 at 8:07 am

    Liberals like Samantha bee and her husband were fighting the reasoning. See,s liberal ideas are good for other peoples children not theirs. I wonder what private school her kids will be going to now.

  • Emmaia Gelman
    Posted August 1, 2017 at 1:07 pm

    There’s no UWS candidate who really stood up for fairness and desegregation in UWS schools. The CEC3 rezoning addressed very little: not how schools became unequal in the first place, not PTA fundraising as a supposedly off-budget source of unequal funding, not the way upper class parents ignore zones to choose their schools anyway. The privileged parents who rolled mob-deep at the rezoning meetings made it seem “radical” to stand up for minimal changes to a school system that’s maximally skewed in their favor. It’s incredible to say that they weren’t consulted. Even the unambitious CEC tried for several years to get them to agree to *something* before voting to rezone. Helen Rosenthal supported the CEC in doing something, however inadequate. It doesn’t make her a hero, but other electeds didn’t even do that much.

    On another note, I know very little about Mel Wymore himself yet, but his campaign volunteers whom I saw at Pride were straight, white, self-important jerks who were literally shoving children out of their way. I was embarrassed for them and whoever sent them out.

    • Keith
      Posted August 4, 2017 at 1:11 pm

      That last bit about the Wymore volunteers at pride is a flagrant lie. I was marching with Chuck Schumer’s group directly behind Wymore’s group. They were a good 20 feet at least behind any group in front of them and didn’t touch anyone. Most of then came up to Senator Schumer and were incredibly polite to him. Also of the people to come up to Schumer half of them were white at most, and how you can possibly tell what someone’s sexuality is from looking at them is baffling to me. You are a blatant liar and it’s pathetic. I don’t care very much either way what happens with the election but I don’t get why you would randomly come lie on a comment section. Maybe you are Rosenthal supporter I don’t know but a liar you definitely are.

      • Emmaia Gelman
        Posted August 7, 2017 at 6:32 pm

        Not particularly a Rosenthal supporter. I was with Wymore’s volunteers on the street after the march and then on the subway with the Pride crowds. Nice that you saw something different, but I didn’t. I identified them as straight based on their behavior and conversation, no guessing involved. And nothing “random” about posting that experience with workers for a candidate who wants to represent me.

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